Posted by SLS on April 15, 2023, at 21:06:03
In reply to Re: Antidepressants to combine with Effexor? » Roslynn, posted by Jay2112 on April 15, 2023, at 18:11:55
> > Jay,
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> > Thank you so much for your message. Do you mind telling me how much Prozac and Effexor you are taking?
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> > Thank you,
> > Roslynn
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> Hi Roslynn,
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> Right now I take 150 of Effexor and 20mg of Prozac. I often adjust those, more if needed, but it is pretty stimulating, so I often come back down. It's been my rock, helping with my depression and anxiety. I also tke 2mg of Risperidone a day.
Jay,I wish you would throw away the idea that you can perpetually change the drugs and dosages of the antidepressants you take. I'm sure that Linkadge started his own bulletin board by now. He was the brightest person on Psycho-Babble, but the absolute worst role model for the clinical application of psychotropics.
Jay - The key to a stable, high-quality, and long-lasting remission is *homeostasis*. People never get well without it. People on Psycho-Babble have neglected this simple concept for years. I'm glad I chased some people away. I may have sounded the death-knell for Psycho-Babble, but it was worse than dead before I did it. Some people were unwittingly preventing others from getting well. Psycho-Babble didn't start out that way. In essence, people on Psycho-Babble unwittingly encourage each other to become reckless, and thus remain ill. This was a gradual transformation. I understand that thinking outside the box is necessary for people to respond to treatment. For many, it is the key success. However, the tools inside the box have to be used the right way for them to have any value.
The following is critical for you to understand if you want to attain the goal of reducing depression and perhaps attain remission.Prozac by itself doesn't make you feel better. Inhibiting the reuptake of serotonin begins within 30 minutes of your taking the very first dose. Yet, it takes weeks to see results. Why?
First, I'm going to let *you* figure out the answer to that question. I bet you will. I just want to give you the opportunity to go through the thought process for yourself. For the moment, I recommend that you throw out everything that you know or think you know about psychopharmacology and neuroscience.
Common sense is all you need. It isn't rocket surgery.
I'm serious. Why does it take a minimum of 2 weeks to respond to an antidepressant when its pharmacological effects takes only 30 minutes to begin acting? It's the concept that is important, not the details regarding physiology.
Right now, I know no other way to help people but through bluntness. This has gone on for too long. There's too little of my time left to exercise gentle tact. There is too little of your time left to find an effective treatment. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise - depression is an altered state of consciousness. It is no less so than being drunk on alcohol, stoned on weed, or tripping on psilocybin. We both deserve to leave the altered state of consciousness called depression behind.
* Interestingly, when I began to come out of depression, I did not feel that I had changed at all. The world changed.
Read the package labels/inserts of available antidepressants. They will all say two things:1. The mechanisms by which antidepressants work are unknown.
2. It takes weeks to see an improvement.Homeostasis.
Be well and stay well!
- ScottSome see things as they are and ask why.
I dream of things that never were and ask why not.The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
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