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Posted by Johnny Baklava on August 15, 2009, at 11:16:17
Hello!
Every night, without fail, I wake up after about four hours of sleep wide awake. Most of the time I can return to sleep in an hour or so. Sometimes not. Here's what I'm taking. Any ideas?Morning:
Fish oil
Borage oil
Empower Plus capsule
B vitamin
1/2 NAC tabletNight:
1/2 melatonin
magnesium taurate capsule
sometimes GABA or benadryl
Posted by nolvas on August 16, 2009, at 4:00:43
In reply to Night Waking, posted by Johnny Baklava on August 15, 2009, at 11:16:17
At a guess it might be the Melatonin, supplemental Melatonin has a short half life of a few hours, once it wears off you can wake up.
This article mentions waking up 4 hours in to sleep which is a common problem >
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7005846
The article also mentions behavioural reinforcement, there's a few online Insomnia C.B.T. courses now which are inexpensive or free.
Alcohol can and does disrupt sleep, if you drink alcohol stop drinking well before you go to sleep.
Posted by Sigismund on August 22, 2009, at 22:32:49
In reply to Night Waking, posted by Johnny Baklava on August 15, 2009, at 11:16:17
>Every night, without fail, I wake up after about four hours of sleep wide awake. Most of the time I can return to sleep in an hour or so. Sometimes not.
Me too, I could set my clock to it.
Every day I have a new theory about it. Polyphenols, fish oil, B vitamins.
No idea, I'm afraid.
Posted by Sigismund on August 22, 2009, at 22:37:05
In reply to Re: Night Waking » Johnny Baklava, posted by Sigismund on August 22, 2009, at 22:32:49
>I wake up after about four hours of sleep wide awake
Like there is some drug at work, enogenous, exogenous, I dunno, but I can feel myself being dragged out of deep sleep.
Posted by nolvas on August 24, 2009, at 15:30:52
In reply to Re: Night Waking, posted by Sigismund on August 22, 2009, at 22:37:05
Cortisol could well be the culprit, the levels of Cortisol change throughout the day, lower when you sleep and higher when you wake up. Cortisol can keep you awake and definitely wake you up. 24hr Cortisol saliva tests may give you an indication of what's happening, also an adrenal function test could shed some light on things. I doubt any conventional doctor would do these tests, an alternative practitioner or even better a functional medicine practitioner could well help if this is very troublesome for you.
This link can give you some background information anyway >
Posted by nolvas on August 24, 2009, at 15:32:31
In reply to Re: Night Waking, posted by nolvas on August 24, 2009, at 15:30:52
Btw I'm not a massive fan of home testing, you should really get tested whilst under the supervision and advice of a qualified practitioner.
Posted by 49er on October 11, 2009, at 7:55:34
In reply to Night Waking, posted by Johnny Baklava on August 15, 2009, at 11:16:17
> Hello!
> Every night, without fail, I wake up after about four hours of sleep wide awake. Most of the time I can return to sleep in an hour or so. Sometimes not. Here's what I'm taking. Any ideas?
>
> Morning:
> Fish oil
> Borage oil
> Empower Plus capsule
> B vitamin
> 1/2 NAC tablet
>
> Night:
> 1/2 melatonin
> magnesium taurate capsule
> sometimes GABA or benadrylJohnny,
I have the same problem.
The previous night, in addition to my Doxepin, I took a ZMA Capsule (mag, zinc and B6) and 1/2 tsp nutmeg before going to bed. When I woke up after 4 hours, I took ZMA, Calcium and 1/2 tsp nutmeg. Got back to sleep and felt very rested.
Tried the same regimen last night and while I slept, I don't feel completely rested. But I took an extra multivitamin which I feel was the culprit.
Anyway, if this works long term, I will post. My concern is taking nutmeg long term. While apparently high doses are bad, it still freaks me out since I am so sensitive to everything.
Stay tuned.
49er
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