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Posted by Escher Dementian on May 3, 2004, at 5:11:42
I have just recently been trying melatonin for insomnia. i'd like to know if my experience is typical, or just telling me that melatonin is not the right assistance for me. i'm curious to hear the actual action of melatonin explained, as it relates to my experience... anyone?
Here's what's happened:
1. 1st night, taking the suppliment when i find i cannot fall asleep - nothing. (hello sunrise w/out sleep)
2. 2nd night, taking the suppliment when i find i cannot fall asleep - nothing. (hello sunrise w/out sleep)
3. 3rd night, "Okay, i'll try taking this thing at sunset..." - nothing. (slept after sunset again)
4. 4th night, sunset, - BLAMMO! fell into a sleep, without taking any melatonin and missing evening meal. Then woke up hours later, (feeling like a dead rubber gumby) but could not fall back asleep until my regular time the next morning.
5. Purchased chewable 500mcg, because sublinguals work very well for me.
5th night, chewed the minty tablet at the time i wanted to fall asleep (11pm) - nothing. (*sigh* ...hello again sunrise)
6. 6th night, 11pm - BLAMMO! (Dead rubber gumby melds with the sofa) Asleep without having taken any melatonin. i sleep for a few hours, but then wake up before full night and watch the good ol' sun come up.
7. 7th night, "Okay, THIS time, i'm taking TWO of these suckers". i chew them at 10pm. - nothing. (hello sunrise w/out sleep)
8. 8th night, tonight - *laugh* at precisely 10pm my body does the BLAMMO! routine again. (But TWICE as deep)
8&1/2. - and now it's 3:00am and i'm awake as ever. i've already been outside on my back deck hooting back at the owls in my douglas fir trees.
....are we seeing a pattern here?Either the way melatonin works, is it shuts the body/brain down for sleep precisely at the time it's taken - but exactly 24hrs later, or i'm in a Twilight Zone episode, and need to find my way back to that Licorice Root Tea commercial break.
Sorry for the silliness...
(no i'm not, it's 3:00am) :-P***~Escher
Posted by LOOPS on May 3, 2004, at 9:50:35
In reply to A Melatonin Hoot, posted by Escher Dementian on May 3, 2004, at 5:11:42
> I have just recently been trying melatonin for insomnia. i'd like to know if my experience is typical, or just telling me that melatonin is not the right assistance for me. i'm curious to hear the actual action of melatonin explained, as it relates to my experience... anyone?
>
> Here's what's happened:
> 1. 1st night, taking the suppliment when i find i cannot fall asleep - nothing. (hello sunrise w/out sleep)
> 2. 2nd night, taking the suppliment when i find i cannot fall asleep - nothing. (hello sunrise w/out sleep)
> 3. 3rd night, "Okay, i'll try taking this thing at sunset..." - nothing. (slept after sunset again)
> 4. 4th night, sunset, - BLAMMO! fell into a sleep, without taking any melatonin and missing evening meal. Then woke up hours later, (feeling like a dead rubber gumby) but could not fall back asleep until my regular time the next morning.
> 5. Purchased chewable 500mcg, because sublinguals work very well for me.
> 5th night, chewed the minty tablet at the time i wanted to fall asleep (11pm) - nothing. (*sigh* ...hello again sunrise)
> 6. 6th night, 11pm - BLAMMO! (Dead rubber gumby melds with the sofa) Asleep without having taken any melatonin. i sleep for a few hours, but then wake up before full night and watch the good ol' sun come up.
> 7. 7th night, "Okay, THIS time, i'm taking TWO of these suckers". i chew them at 10pm. - nothing. (hello sunrise w/out sleep)
> 8. 8th night, tonight - *laugh* at precisely 10pm my body does the BLAMMO! routine again. (But TWICE as deep)
> 8&1/2. - and now it's 3:00am and i'm awake as ever. i've already been outside on my back deck hooting back at the owls in my douglas fir trees.
> ....are we seeing a pattern here?
>
> Either the way melatonin works, is it shuts the body/brain down for sleep precisely at the time it's taken - but exactly 24hrs later, or i'm in a Twilight Zone episode, and need to find my way back to that Licorice Root Tea commercial break.
>
> Sorry for the silliness...
> (no i'm not, it's 3:00am) :-P***
>
> ~Escher
Hi -I stopped messing with this stuff a few weeks back when I started to feel like I couldn't get any sleep without it.
It DID work for me, but at a 3mg sublingual dose, along with some 5htp. You may need to take more.
Well it's better in my opinion instead of taking meds for sleep, but it is not very consistent in its effects, and you sound like your body needs to get into a more consistent pattern (it is possible - I've been there and back).
I've had chronic insomnia all my life. The last couple of weeks I was determined to completely come off all sleeping pills no matter what, and go for a vitamin approach.
The first nights were horrible, but I swear the stuff I'm taking now is working far better on my sleep as a 'whole'.
Taking
inositol 1,500mg
magnesium chelate 100mg
GABA 750mg
vit C 500mgStress Free herbal tabs 2
Valerian Easy sleep tabs 2The inositol is making the most impact. Yes I still wake up in the night, but I go back to sleep. The first week i stopped taking melatonin, midazolam, ambien (not all at once) was awful. My body was like 'hey, what's this? - I can't do this on my own you know'.
I wish there were more studies done on inositol, I have been searching for ages for the sleep connection with this.
What else are you taking right now??
Loops
Posted by fayeroe on May 3, 2004, at 20:41:08
In reply to A Melatonin Hoot, posted by Escher Dementian on May 3, 2004, at 5:11:42
Okay...here's my mellie story! I marched to store, after reading about it here, bought some and came home. Couldn't wait til bedtime! Bedtime comes, I take the med/supp/whatever...I go to sleep reasonably soon..THEN I dream that I am in my state capitol with new shoes on and some man, who was on the rotunda, spit tobacco juice on the toes of my shoes.....I then became so upset that I drove to the apartment of my best friend who turned out to BE DIANE SAWYER!
I laid there for the rest of the night and alternated between giggling and being pissed because I could not sleep. Then I talked to the health food store owner and she said that mellie is notorious for doing strange things. I died laughing when I read about you hooting to the owls. I've done that melantonian free but your hoots were enhanced....
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