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Posted by willyee234 on August 24, 2014, at 17:36:06
Most docs or anyone for that matter has heard of Ultraradon cycling.Its very very knew,again most docs arent familiar with it.Im not a doc to diagnose
myself however from the little info thats out there i have to swear it fits me directly.In a nutshell it is a form of bipolar that does NOT involve cycling in days weeks or months but hours.For instance ill wake up my meds work 100 percent ill make plans to do stuff by 1pm im siting with my head down in a chair and cant do anything.This is noted to be very new and since its not even known or accepted yet its very very hard to treat,Wikie has a small pieace on it...."An ultradian rhythm is a recurrent period or cycle repeated throughout a 24-hour circadian day."
Posted by Phillipa on August 24, 2014, at 17:44:28
In reply to New form of bipolar, posted by willyee234 on August 24, 2014, at 17:36:06
Is that what Ron Hill former poster has and as far as know in remission now. SLS might know. P
Posted by willyee234 on August 24, 2014, at 19:10:24
In reply to Re: New form of bipolar » willyee234, posted by Phillipa on August 24, 2014, at 17:44:28
Im in what i consider remission,i was bed bound,room bound,house bound with my parents.I just moved into my new home,i train boxing,i lost a ton of weight,i have suzie,it just comes in constantly but ive learned to deal with it.
Thinking back to when i was bed bound was scary,id spend morning till night in bed and that was scary.
Posted by babbler20 on August 24, 2014, at 20:05:41
In reply to New form of bipolar, posted by willyee234 on August 24, 2014, at 17:36:06
You could have Borderline Personality Disorder. My ex-gf had this and she had the exact same experience.
Posted by SLS on August 25, 2014, at 8:19:18
In reply to Re: New form of bipolar, posted by babbler20 on August 24, 2014, at 20:05:41
> You could have Borderline Personality Disorder. My ex-gf had this and she had the exact same experience.
Not everyone agrees when describing the relationship between BPD and BD. There is a great overlap in symptoms between them, and there is likely to be some genetic or epigenetic biological commonalities. More recently, several researchers are placing BPD in the bipolar spectrum. I think this is somewhat premature.
Many people who have BPD experience rapid changes in mood throughout the day. However, they are often triggered by psychosocial stresses, situations, or events. The mood shifts in BPD are often referred to as emotional dysregulation. Ultradian rapid-cycling bipolar disorder is rare. Here, though, mood switches are independent of environmental or psychic triggers. With non-cycling MDD, mood-drift during the day is common. A great percentage of people with MDD experience a regular change in the severity of their depression that follows the same pattern each day. Historically, melancholic depression (formerly known as endogenous depression) is much worse early in the day, while atypical depression often shows the reverse diurnal pattern. My untreated depression (most likely bipolar) is consistently worse between 1:00 PM and 3:00 PM. This is unusual. In particular, I suffer from a greater loss of energy and concentration during these hours. Some people experience a mood fluctuation after a meal. With ultradian rapid cycling, the switch between bipolar mood extremes is paroxysmal.
One difficulty in parsing BPD and BD is that they are sometimes comorbid - perhaps by 15% - 20%.
- Scott
Posted by Beckett on August 25, 2014, at 13:19:21
In reply to Re: New form of bipolar, posted by SLS on August 25, 2014, at 8:19:18
Mood drift is a useful term. I like it.
BPD, I have thought, is akin to anxiety disorders, and is a fight or flight response triggered by psychologic or environmental stressors as Scott postulates above. The name BPD is a misnomer for a physiologic illness interfering with cohesive personality expression.
Cyclothymia, which can also create personality disturbances due to unreliability of mood as well, is a different illness.
Posted by babbler20 on August 25, 2014, at 15:19:23
In reply to Re: New form of bipolar, posted by SLS on August 25, 2014, at 8:19:18
That is very interesting. I didn't realize the co-morbitiy rate is so high. My depression is always bad. It gets worse when I'm stressed. If I'm under a lot of stress, I basically lose all interest in everything and question the meaning of life.
Posted by Phil on August 25, 2014, at 17:46:25
In reply to Re: New form of bipolar, posted by babbler20 on August 25, 2014, at 15:19:23
When I filed for and got disability my paperwork had 'stress' in it dozens of times. Really bad stress and little resources to handle it. it totally shuts me down.
Posted by Phillipa on August 25, 2014, at 19:53:54
In reply to Re: New form of bipolar » babbler20, posted by Phil on August 25, 2014, at 17:46:25
When under extreme stress I function well as the stress is resolved or begins to get better all of a sudden I feel it and each time this happens it takes so much longer to try and get back to a baseline for me. I remain agitated and fearful. Why I should say pheww that's over and go back to normal. Phillipa
Posted by babbler20 on August 25, 2014, at 22:16:13
In reply to Re: New form of bipolar » babbler20, posted by Phil on August 25, 2014, at 17:46:25
I'd say it totally shuts me down as well. If I spend too much time inside, I also get really depressed.
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