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Posted by rjlockhart37 on December 2, 2012, at 20:41:01
i was reading a long time ago that psychopaths usally have superfical charm...they have real good words, and seem like really cool people...they dress vary well, and intelligent...but they have their devious plans they never disclose for self gain, and usally cruel actions to others later, depening what their goal is. Well that's a common thing in america lol
but I have to say, the people I know, im terribly bad at relating...so i learned kinda go with flow socialization. It's like saying "wonderful to see you, thank you have a good day" as a pet awnser...and then walk out of the room and say thank god im out of there....
do this with alot of social stuff, yet when I go to bed i really know thats not true... social mechanism to survive in the world with out having to be exposed of all my deficets..
but im not a psychopath, like im just a little kid that cares about everyone but doesnt want to be exposed of his deficiets.all the therpy im in, im superfical in my own therapy! its like im in there to learn to better me and grow, im using social stuff to even appear normal to therapist...its just i've been humilated alot times and that's why I avoid it. Methamphetamines increase my thought patterns and intesity of relatonships but it usally makes you do wierd stuff...overfocused for hours, having pointless comments during a conversation, obsessed...behaviors, im done with it.
really....if im ever gonna find out who i am, playing mr. nice guy and go with the flow has to go... and whats my purpose, and what I can achieve...i mean these posts i write i know are not productive, nothing can really get out of this...expect for couple reads....gotta vent somewhere.
Posted by Phillipa on December 2, 2012, at 22:48:54
In reply to superfical charm, posted by rjlockhart37 on December 2, 2012, at 20:41:01
Pschopaths have no conscience. Phillipa
Posted by novelagent on December 9, 2012, at 19:14:33
In reply to superfical charm, posted by rjlockhart37 on December 2, 2012, at 20:41:01
Amphetamines are perfectly fine at therapeutic doses. Your problem is that you take them at too high of a dose, not that you take them at all.
I doubt you'll be very productive without a minimal dose of an amphetamine at this point, since you seem to have anhedonia when you're off it. You're probably like me, you're habituated. That doesn't mean you're addicted, and you have to come away from having simplistic relationships with drugs that can benefit you when they're used responsibly.
When I took Vyvanse, I took it as prescribed, but now that my doc won't give me vyvanse at a comparable dose as she gives me Adderall, I take more Adderall as-needed for papers and things, which means I run out of my script early.
Anyhow, you don't have superficial charm. It sounds like you have aspergers, though, since I feel like you feel, like you're faking it a bit too much and all around others... you have to be more rehearsed and all, because it wasn't likely easy for you to charm others when you were young; you had to learn it. This explains your social anxiety and perhaps non-verbal learning disorder. There's good aspergers support groups out there. Some doctors in your area may even specialize in it.
If you've ever had psychosis, you should know some psychosis is not uncommon among those with autism; there's a greater likelihood of it at some point if you have autism. You may just have a very high-functioning, benign autism. It may explain why you feel like you need to act so favorably and agreeable to others now.
Discuss with your therapist, and beware I may very well be full of s***. =)
Posted by rjlockhart37 on December 9, 2012, at 21:28:25
In reply to Re: superfical charm, posted by novelagent on December 9, 2012, at 19:14:33
yea....thanks, the main thing I know with me with stimulants besides Nuvigil is that its like eating too much....let me explain, when I eat I always feel that satifaction and compluse to move to other more good delicious food, moving to unhealthy ones like ding dongs and crack jacks...but that's exactly how I know how I think of stimulants, the dopamine release is similar yet food doesnt directly stimulate dopamine. That's learned/predicted how my thoughts would be if I ever was put on a stimulant, which I don't think would be the best right now...even though my friends pop adderall and ritilin when they want, even at night... I've had to comply with my doctor, do what she says, never get her thinking I know more than she does, which in sometimes that's difficult:)lol
But yea...I am habit behavior, but i'm finally learning what it will do, predicting reward systems. getting ahold of self control is something I still am on the road too...
the asperger thing....in 2008 i went to a doctor, i had too...for a court case, I wasnt psychotic, but I sat with him, he observed how I moved, what I did with my hands, suprised he didnt try to read my mind..lol but after it couple days later I got the report, my dad got it because he's the one that was handling the case....and then the whole family was informed I had ASPG...but thinking I have autism some people will view me as borterline retarted, and treat me like im a baby who can't think right. I hate being labeled that, i would rather go with ADHD, or even schizophenia...not autism, there's nothing wrong with it...i just don't want people to say : now rj, how are you feeling at this moment? lets give you a pat on the back because you did the dishes correctly...its like they look down at me for having lower intelligence...you know stuff like taht...it bothers me. Then they after I leave or go in the other room they have insulting comments under their breathe. Despreatly trying to recoop my mind to get away from that.
Thanks NVA...but like I said when I go to bed at night all that social mask falls off, and I think mournful thoughts of not going to prom or finishing college and having good friends that have great times with eachother. The social impairment is obvious with me, and ill have to deal with it later, burden to even think about. But look on the bright side, everyones unique.
r
Posted by brynb on December 16, 2012, at 9:43:42
In reply to Re: superfical charm, posted by rjlockhart37 on December 9, 2012, at 21:28:25
you hit the nail on the head, rj: everyone's unique. why even bother trying to fake it? the somewhat controversial writer oscar wilde said, "be yourself, everyone else is already taken." i love that.
regarding you amphetamine use, if you truly want to, you (anyone) can rewire/retrain (y)our behavioral patterns. there's a lot of really cool info out there on how to break through old behavior or blocks and create new patterns. this video on you tube speaks to a lot of what you've written:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XcCoDlVf-s&feature=autoplay&list=PLFCFB3B236FF8FB2B&playnext=1
hope you're well,
b
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