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Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on August 12, 2011, at 21:33:01
I am so discusted with myself for not responding to medication because i am very limited to choices to medications unless I change doctors and find the perfect presciber to what I need. I've been taking Panax Giseng to help with ADHD and I have to take high doses until it makes me a nervous wreck.
Is there anyone here that had a doctor that would not prescibe what you need?? and then you found one. The main thing is my mother will not let me have stimulants. That is the problem. So please can someone tell me a solution to this.
Let's all walk away happy.
Why is the strattera not working??? i've taken it for 4 - 5 weeks now and nothing. My doctor may not go to wellbutrin and I'm already havin to memorize my kiss up words to her. I mean what do I have to do??? write a card with 50 bucks inside and a couple kind words all over something I need and she won't give it me??
Posted by 10derheart on August 13, 2011, at 1:16:33
In reply to Strattera isnt work. I'm taking Panax Ginseng, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on August 12, 2011, at 21:33:01
>>>Why is the strattera not working??? i've taken it for 4 - 5 weeks now and nothing.
Are you sure of the time period? On Aug 1 you posted and said you started it a week ago, so that would be 19 days as of today. Less than three weeks and 4-5 weeks could be different, although I'm no expert. It worked fast for me as you know. I wish it did for you, too. How long have you been on 80 mg? Have you given it a good trial? How long did your doc say to wait for results? What results are you expecting?
I wonder (and experts here will need to weigh in as I am a novice at med stuff...) if the fact you are taking a fairly high dose of Prozac could be having some sort of paradoxical effect? Prozac + Strattera generally means that plasma levels of atomoxatine are higher is most people and the Prozac dose is adjusted downward according to the pt's reports of increased se, etc. But in your case you are reporting no response at all?
Any way you could d/c the Prozac and try the Strattera without that in the mix? (Prozac usually doesn't need much of a lengthy taper (none for some people such as myself and my daughter who both stopped it cold with no problem)) Maybe that's a dumb idea, I don't know.
Just trying to think outside the box for you here, Matt.I am sorry you are still struggling so much with the doc, your mother and these meds. I know how debilitating untreated, undertreated or improperly treated ADD can be.
Do you take the clonodine for anxiety or specifically for ADD? (which can be so overlapping you can't tell a difference in some people, IMO - the way ADD manifests itself)
The Prozac helpse symptoms of depression? What are they...sorry I can't remember exactly?
The Zyprexa? I am not super familiar but know of it with manic episodes and psychotic features, sometimes in bipolar? What it is helping with, exactly? Or was it helping, when it used to work?
Sorry for all the questions. Just looking at your list of meds I got muddled trying to remember what symptoms outside of the core ones of ADD were the worst for yo and what the other meds were supposed to be doing. Thought if we could get it clearer maybe some others here could give you some good suggestions for a talk with your doc.
I will read your other posts now.
Hang in there, Matt.
Posted by Solstice on August 13, 2011, at 9:33:06
In reply to Strattera isnt work. I'm taking Panax Ginseng, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on August 12, 2011, at 21:33:01
> I am so discusted with myself for not responding to medication because i am very limited to choices to medications unless I change doctors and find the perfect presciber to what I need. I've been taking Panax Giseng to help with ADHD and I have to take high doses until it makes me a nervous wreck.
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> Is there anyone here that had a doctor that would not prescibe what you need?? and then you found one. The main thing is my mother will not let me have stimulants. That is the problem. So please can someone tell me a solution to this.
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> Let's all walk away happy.
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> Why is the strattera not working??? i've taken it for 4 - 5 weeks now and nothing. My doctor may not go to wellbutrin and I'm already havin to memorize my kiss up words to her. I mean what do I have to do??? write a card with 50 bucks inside and a couple kind words all over something I need and she won't give it me??
Matt..What does 'prefect prescriber' mean? Does it mean 'doctor who will prescribe drugs I'll abuse'? By not prescribing drugs that you will abuse - your doctor IS giving you what you need.
The problem is not that your mother won't let you have stimulants. The problem is that you are an abuser of drugs - of stimulants in particular. The solution - is for you to address your addiction, and figure out how to stop blaming the doctor and your mom. Hang in there.. and keep fighting the fight (against addiction).
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on August 13, 2011, at 10:27:53
In reply to Re: Strattera isnt work. I'm taking Panax Ginseng » rjlockhart04-08, posted by 10derheart on August 13, 2011, at 1:16:33
The strattera just has no effect on me. Maybe its more suttle with time going by. The other day I bought panax ginsing to help with concentration. I'm really not happy about this situation im in. That's why I don't post because I don't feel like talking about it to people because I feel there's nothing I can do but there something I can do. It will just take time.
How long have you been on 80 mg? Have you given it a good trial? How long did your doc say to wait for results? What results are you expecting?
I've been on 80mg for about 4 days now. Yes I'm still giving it a good trial until I see my doctor again. I was expecting better concentration.
The Zyprexa works but it lost its effect on me. I no longer feel sedation or lethargy that it used to produce.
Thanks 10erheart!
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on August 13, 2011, at 10:37:38
In reply to Re: Strattera isnt work. I'm taking Panax Ginseng » rjlockhart04-08, posted by Solstice on August 13, 2011, at 9:33:06
Yes, I have to let people know im addict. The thing is if they don't know I will have a tendency to take advantage of them and try to get them to prescibe me thing that will make me feel better. You know I see all these people taking Xanax here AND DEXEDRINE and you know simply I can't take that. Even thought in my thoughts I want to go dr-shopping and find someone that will give me what I need. That's all I want.
Someone told me here that I just have to find the right doctor for prescibing. There out there and I just have to find them. But I have no shame in telling them I'm a recovering addict.
Posted by Phillipa on August 13, 2011, at 13:27:42
In reply to Re: Strattera isnt work. I'm taking Panax Ginseng, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on August 13, 2011, at 10:37:38
Are you attending your meetings? Phillipa
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on August 14, 2011, at 0:48:47
In reply to Re: Strattera isnt work. I'm taking Panax Ginseng » rjlockhart04-08, posted by Phillipa on August 13, 2011, at 13:27:42
Phillipa!!!
YESSSSSSSSSS I AM. It's so good to hear from you!! I go them everyday and explain about my addiction but it's about our experience strength and hope not about sharing misery. I mean you can but its really preferred to share something like how the 12 step program has changed your life or where you are in learning more about. You can sometimes tell people about whats going on in life. I try not to make a habit of sharing negative energy of sorrow of my life because it brings everyone down.
I havent talk to you in a while but I will tell you what has happened these past years. In 2008 I moved in with my aunt and uncle who are pastors and I got a chance to see my own doctor with out my mother and it went very well. I got put on Vyvanse 70mg twice daily then I moved to Dexedrine Spansules 15mg twice daily. It worked well. I abused it like usally then my doctor told me he could not prescibe Xanax and Dexedrine anymore and told me I had to go to rehab. To a place where I wished I could of changed something in the past. Then I got a second chance with another rehab doctor that listen to my calls and prescibed me Vyvanse again at 40mg and I abused it and my mother called and ruined everything because she told him. I hate her for doing that. So after that in 2010 I was in the 3rd rehab for not even doing street drugs. And last year I went to sundown ranch and met my doctor that I see today. And pretty much all that has lead up to this. She's not a nice doctor at all. She's a medical director for a medical facility that treats addicts.
I tell ya, I have learned humility because everything I had got taken away from me and I have been learning to appciate what I do have left and carrying the message of hope to other people who are struggling with addiction.
I really want to restart over again but I have learned from my mistakes so they won't happen again.
Catch up with me on facebook!!
love ya!!
Matt
Posted by bleauberry on August 14, 2011, at 10:04:14
In reply to Strattera isnt work. I'm taking Panax Ginseng, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on August 12, 2011, at 21:33:01
Rhodiola is a thousands times better than any of the ginsengs, especially for psychiatric issues. Its effect can also be customized by dose size. Lower doses are more stimulant like, higher doses more grounding and calming. A pdoc in NYC uses it as monotherapy and combo therapy with meds on patients, and his wife was cured by it when the meds didn't work. He has since written a book on it.
For anyone looking for an adaptogen, which in my opinion should be just about anyone with any kind of symptoms, Rhodiola is the first choice when psych symptoms are part of the clinical picture. The various ginsengs are good but more prone to destabilization, and their impact on psychiatric issues is not very good. imo
Posted by Phillipa on August 14, 2011, at 19:08:50
In reply to Phillipa, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on August 14, 2011, at 0:48:47
Hi sweetie. Yes you still are on my facebook aren't you. I knew you were attending the meetings due to the messages from your friends. It seems you have lots of friends that care and that is so good!!!! Love Phillipa
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