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Posted by FrequentFryer on March 27, 2008, at 0:07:59
Nardil has pooped out bad.
Jedi you said you have been on Phenelzine for like 11 years.
I think Im a bit like you.. main problems = Dysthemia and Social Anxiety.Im better on 90mg's of Nardil then nothing but anyways I got a shrink who is willing to try almost anything if I go inpatient so do you think I should try adding Amphetamine or Bupropion (he even mentioned ssri to Nardil????
Or just try and keep on trucking ,,, merr its so hard to get a job / women / home when ya can't be bothered getting out of bed. But the amphetamine and or other substances will probably just poop aswell hay?Any advice?
Posted by FrequentFryer on March 27, 2008, at 0:20:27
In reply to JEDI + Nardil Pro's advise please!, posted by FrequentFryer on March 27, 2008, at 0:07:59
I can't find any post's on good Nardil long term augmentor's but then if they got an amazing long term responce I guess they wouldn't be here posting.
Posted by undopaminergic on March 27, 2008, at 12:31:34
In reply to JEDI + Nardil Pro's advise please!, posted by FrequentFryer on March 27, 2008, at 0:07:59
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> Im better on 90mg's of Nardil then nothing but anyways I got a shrink who is willing to try almost anything if I go inpatient so do you think I should try adding Amphetamine or Bupropion (he even mentioned ssri to Nardil????
> Or just try and keep on trucking ,,, merr its so hard to get a job / women / home when ya can't be bothered getting out of bed. But the amphetamine and or other substances will probably just poop aswell hay?Not necessarily, but I would first experiment with monoamine precursor amino acids (particularly phenylalanine and tryptophan), then try modafinil before methylphenidate, with amphetamine as a last resort.
Methylphenidate may have the advantage of reducing tyramine sensitivity, as it blocks the noradrenaline transporter.
Posted by Phillipa on March 27, 2008, at 12:54:13
In reply to Re: JEDI + Nardil Pro's advise please!, posted by FrequentFryer on March 27, 2008, at 0:20:27
How bout the Deplin? See SLS's thread below. Phillipa
Posted by esamaxe on March 29, 2008, at 22:17:37
In reply to JEDI + Nardil Pro's advise please!, posted by FrequentFryer on March 27, 2008, at 0:07:59
> Nardil has pooped out bad.
> Jedi you said you have been on Phenelzine for like 11 years.
> I think Im a bit like you.. main problems = Dysthemia and Social Anxiety.
>
> Im better on 90mg's of Nardil then nothing but anyways I got a shrink who is willing to try almost anything if I go inpatient so do you think I should try adding Amphetamine or Bupropion (he even mentioned ssri to Nardil????
> Or just try and keep on trucking ,,, merr its so hard to get a job / women / home when ya can't be bothered getting out of bed. But the amphetamine and or other substances will probably just poop aswell hay?
>
> Any advice?
Yes. Eventhough contraindicated, but usually very safe if prescribed by an experienced psych, MAOI + Dexedrine or another stimulant can be very effective and was used a lot in the 60's and 70's and still is for hard to treat depressions (especially atypical).
Also a very logical choice would be to augment nardil with lithium anywhere from subtheraputic to theraputic blood levels (300-900mg or higher).
These are ideas, and there are studies that have been done testing these combos. (google). I'm no expert, they're just ideas but could be options.
Posted by FrequentFryer on April 2, 2008, at 2:42:41
In reply to Re: JEDI + Nardil Pro's advise please!, posted by esamaxe on March 29, 2008, at 22:17:37
Thanks all.
I am inpatient at the moment & will let ya's know how it goes.
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