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Posted by chiron on July 16, 2007, at 22:31:35
I read about research that taking this amino acid, vitamin, or mineral can help mood disorders. And then there is research that it can make it worse. And I don't think it is just a matter of taking everything - I have at least one Wilson's Disease gene that makes my body not good at getting rid of copper. (multivitamin = bad for me).
And along the same lines, the same drug will have the opposite effects in two different people. There is so much research that still needs to be done. Sometimes I try and figure out what is going on, but it really is overwhelming.
Hopefully someday they will be able to do tests that look at an individual's specific physiology and cater to what they need.
Thanks for letting me vent.
Posted by Sigismund on July 17, 2007, at 2:59:20
In reply to Both nutrients and drugs are a gamble, posted by chiron on July 16, 2007, at 22:31:35
Posted by linkadge on July 17, 2007, at 8:47:16
In reply to Both nutrients and drugs are a gamble, posted by chiron on July 16, 2007, at 22:31:35
I think that such options should still be available however. There has been a huge surge in mental illness in recent years, and I think that people should at least have the option of using vitamin/mineral etc supplements to treat themselves.
I don't think it is right that (I think you are reffering to empower?) be pulled from the market.
I think it could probably be coupled with some sort of test to determine nutrient levels, so that deficiancies could be better targeted.
Linkadge
Posted by linkadge on July 17, 2007, at 8:53:09
In reply to Bigger stakes with the drugs (nm) » chiron, posted by Sigismund on July 17, 2007, at 2:59:20
I would kind of have to agree with the above. I am taking a risk. I have been diagnosed with similar illness to my mother.
It has been a illness passed allong my mothers side. My mother has attempted suicide.
Anyhow, I am taking a risk by not treating it with drugs. Doctors tell me that without meds I will relapse and just get worse. While not everbody does as poorly on drugs as my mother, she has significanlty deteriorated.
Nobody on my mothers side lived less than 85, yet my mother is almost senile at 60. She can barely walk, can't even prepare her own food. Anyone in my family recognizes that the drugs have been her downfall, and that they will be the end of her.
Am taking a risk by not going that route? I do find relif with alternatives, and hope that they take less of a toll on my brain and body as meds have my mom.
Linkadge
Posted by Phillipa on July 17, 2007, at 11:25:39
In reply to Re: Bigger stakes with the drugs » Sigismund, posted by linkadge on July 17, 2007, at 8:53:09
So many people tell me of their friends or themselves that when traditional medical care has failed them have seen naturopaths and they have gotten to the root cause and now they are well. I don't think they take insurance though. Love Phillipa
Posted by linkadge on July 17, 2007, at 14:12:41
In reply to Re: Bigger stakes with the drugs, posted by Phillipa on July 17, 2007, at 11:25:39
If the bottom line does happen to be that medications preserve brain volume, and/or promote neural placiticiy, then there is certainly an argument that nutritional supplements are capable of similar tasks.
Linkadge
Posted by tendency on July 17, 2007, at 15:30:27
In reply to Re: Bigger stakes with the drugs » Sigismund, posted by linkadge on July 17, 2007, at 8:53:09
Hey Link -
I can sympathize..my mental illness is passed down on my mom's side as well. What's interesting, however, is that my grandma, who's been diagnosed schizophrenic and has been taking very nasty meds for 35+ years is 'healthy as a horse' (ok, physically at least, not mentally!) at age 88.
On the flip side, I definitely have seen relatives who's health appears to have been strongly negatively affected by meds.
Just weird how these things affect different people..
Posted by linkadge on July 17, 2007, at 16:06:34
In reply to Re: Bigger stakes with the drugs » linkadge, posted by tendency on July 17, 2007, at 15:30:27
Yeah, I know. And you will get those smokers who live to be 105. They become the hero of every smoker.
Seriosly though, it is about weighing pro's and cons. I may actually be taking the worse route, who knows.
Perhaps after years the desease will take more of a toll on me than the drugs would have.
I just don't think I could live with myself if I, at least, didn't try to change this path of my mother.
Linkadge
Posted by chiron on July 19, 2007, at 22:44:58
In reply to Re: Both nutrients and drugs are a gamble, posted by linkadge on July 17, 2007, at 8:47:16
> I think that such options should still be available however. There has been a huge surge in mental illness in recent years, and I think that people should at least have the option of using vitamin/mineral etc supplements to treat themselves.
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> I don't think it is right that (I think you are reffering to empower?) be pulled from the market.
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> I think it could probably be coupled with some sort of test to determine nutrient levels, so that deficiancies could be better targeted.I agree that both are options, I just think it is frustrating that even with nutrients (which I would rather just take) there may be negative effects.
I didn't even know empower might be pulled from the market- I don't think they should be pulled. I actually was looking on their website to see if they had other products that didn't have copper in them.
Posted by linkadge on July 21, 2007, at 19:26:48
In reply to Re: Both nutrients and drugs are a gamble » linkadge, posted by chiron on July 19, 2007, at 22:44:58
This is the thing. I have yet to find a multivitamin which I like the entire contents of, so I usually choose to take vitamins separately.
Linkadge
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