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Posted by Tom Twilight on March 29, 2007, at 15:47:52
Apparently there is a link between bodily Acidification & Anxiety
How can one measure urinary PH?
Also what can one do about Acidification?
Urinary pH was evaluated in panic disorder (PD) patients compared with both psychiatric and healthy control subjects. Fourteen PD patients, eight major depressive disorder (MDD) patients, and 14 healthy control (HC) subjects were examined. All patients were drug-free and met DSM-IV diagnostic criteria. The PD patients had lower urinary pH and higher levels of anxiety than both MDD and HC subjects. Additionally, urinary pH inversely correlated with anxiety levels. Although preliminary, these findings suggest that PD patients have lower urinary pH than MDD and HC subjects. Future studies that simultaneously examine both urinary and blood pH in larger numbers of PD patients and patients with other anxiety disorders, before and after treatment, need to be conducted.
Posted by Phillipa on March 29, 2007, at 16:00:43
In reply to Acidification-Anxiety Link, posted by Tom Twilight on March 29, 2007, at 15:47:52
I think a ua meaures the acidity if not arent there dip sticks? And if you take 2000mg of Vita C than I would think my urine would be acidic wouldn't it? Love Phillipa
Posted by Cairo on March 31, 2007, at 21:41:49
In reply to Acidification-Anxiety Link, posted by Tom Twilight on March 29, 2007, at 15:47:52
I believe that an onset of panic attacks was caused by metabolic acidosis after I started Topamax. I had some urinary pH strips (bought at the health food store for my daughter's science classs) and my urinary pH level was below the lowest pH measurable at the time of the panic attacks. When I tapered off the Topamax and symptoms started decreasing, the pH increased. My pdoc and Internist both did not associate the panic attacks with metabolic acidosis, but I do.
Unfortunately the panic attacks lasted for about 8 months and I had to take Klonopin and Inderal before they tapered off. I never thought of eating an alkaline diet to raise pH nor did I dontinue to measure my urinary pH to see if it increased more as my symptoms abated. Maybe I should have tried some sodium bicarb tablets as well.
Cairo
> Apparently there is a link between bodily Acidification & Anxiety
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> How can one measure urinary PH?
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> Also what can one do about Acidification?
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> Urinary pH was evaluated in panic disorder (PD) patients compared with both psychiatric and healthy control subjects. Fourteen PD patients, eight major depressive disorder (MDD) patients, and 14 healthy control (HC) subjects were examined. All patients were drug-free and met DSM-IV diagnostic criteria. The PD patients had lower urinary pH and higher levels of anxiety than both MDD and HC subjects. Additionally, urinary pH inversely correlated with anxiety levels. Although preliminary, these findings suggest that PD patients have lower urinary pH than MDD and HC subjects. Future studies that simultaneously examine both urinary and blood pH in larger numbers of PD patients and patients with other anxiety disorders, before and after treatment, need to be conducted.
Posted by Cairo on April 1, 2007, at 3:55:37
In reply to Acidification-Anxiety Link, posted by Tom Twilight on March 29, 2007, at 15:47:52
This may be helpful:
http://ezinearticles.com/?Diet-to-Help-Eliminate-Anxiety&id=272724
Cairo
Posted by FredPotter on April 1, 2007, at 18:31:34
In reply to Re: Anxiety diet, posted by Cairo on April 1, 2007, at 3:55:37
I don't know where to start. Fruit alkaline? Get the litmus paper out and try it. The stomach is in any case very acidic - naturally - yeah naturally. The 8 glasses of water a day myth was traced back by a colleague of mine. Originally the story was that most people consumed the equivalent of 8 glasses of water, much of it in the form of fruit and veg. Hold a ripe pear and feel the weight. That's almost all water. The answer is:
DRINK when you're thirsty
Don't drink distilled water. It'll wash out minerals and vitaminsAlso it states that sugar is bad for you but fruit is good. Well grapes for example contain about 20 sugar (fructose, glucose and maltose, I think). Actually it might have said refined sugar, meaning I suppose sucrose (C12H22O11). This breaks down into glucose once in the body however, and "glucose is glucose". OK in a fruit it might be slower release than pure glucose.
Finally to say a glass of water is one of the fastest ways to eliminate anxiety is nonsense. Try Scotch on the rocks. I'll think you'll agree it's quicker.
Fred
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