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Posted by rjlockhart on February 26, 2007, at 21:44:16
Ok well if you got it, if i drink grapefruit juice with Xanax you will have a very wierd effect.
Is it safe to, well the only reason i drank it is because i heard that it increases its half life, whcih is only 2 hours, it lasted only 3 when i drank grapefruit juice, but the effect was not exepted you i thought i took Some other kinda of benzodiazepine, that im not going to say.
Anyone here know?
rj
Posted by rjlockhart on February 26, 2007, at 22:53:41
In reply to Should i drink grapefuit juice with others meds, posted by rjlockhart on February 26, 2007, at 21:44:16
Posted by laima on February 26, 2007, at 23:00:18
In reply to Should i drink grapefuit juice with others meds, posted by rjlockhart on February 26, 2007, at 21:44:16
I think- probably not a hot idea. And you could end up with strange and unwanted effects with other meds. The grapefruit could greatly increase or diminish their effects. Plus, xanax isn't supposed to be recreational. Sorry to be a such a party-pooper- but just trying to think in your best interest and want you to stay safe.> Ok well if you got it, if i drink grapefruit juice with Xanax you will have a very wierd effect.
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> Is it safe to, well the only reason i drank it is because i heard that it increases its half life, whcih is only 2 hours, it lasted only 3 when i drank grapefruit juice, but the effect was not exepted you i thought i took Some other kinda of benzodiazepine, that im not going to say.
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> Anyone here know?
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> rj
Posted by rjlockhart on February 26, 2007, at 23:10:58
In reply to Re: Should i drink grapefuit juice with others meds » rjlockhart, posted by laima on February 26, 2007, at 23:00:18
No, well, the main reason well, i have abused amphetamines, prescription badly...
But Xanax istn really for me, i just take it to go to sleep. And panic attacks. Ok.
I havent had any "OOB" Out of Body experinces since new years, so less i need.
I was just asking.......why do think im getting high on xanax.
I've been on Klonopin, Ativan, Xanax, And Trazadone over 4 years, so no i with a doctor trying to help, plus SSRI's like zoloft, and Prozac.........so no im not a xanax head.
But thanks for the comment, i just thought you where thinking i was abusing it.
Maybe it sounded like it in the one where i took grapefruit juice and xanax and thought i was on quaalues? thats it.
Sorry about that.
rj
Posted by laima on February 27, 2007, at 0:26:04
In reply to Re: Should i drink grapefuit juice with others meds, posted by rjlockhart on February 26, 2007, at 23:10:58
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to sound like I was making a value judgement of you at all. Indeed, I have abused both stims and benzos in the past myself, never could have guessed it could have happened to me, and so who am I to judge anyone else who did anything like that? And I know you weren't even setting out to do any abusing anyway- I know you are not the drug abuser type-you just discovered a strange effect of how to make xanax feel stronger-so strong it must be like qualuudes! I can understand you were just describing to us how strong and strange it felt. Well, I bet I'd feel impressed, too, if I felt that! But I was worried that maybe you liked it so much you might repeat it just for fun. I hope you can understand why I worried that- it was not meant to be any kind of insult or criticism. But I read a post by Larry, who seems very smart, that said grapefruit juice can be dangerous with meds, and I didn't want you to end up having any kind of accident or danger by repeating such experiments. I hope that makes sense. I hope you are not upset with me?
> No, well, the main reason well, i have abused amphetamines, prescription badly...
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> But Xanax istn really for me, i just take it to go to sleep. And panic attacks. Ok.
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> I havent had any "OOB" Out of Body experinces since new years, so less i need.
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> I was just asking.......why do think im getting high on xanax.
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> I've been on Klonopin, Ativan, Xanax, And Trazadone over 4 years, so no i with a doctor trying to help, plus SSRI's like zoloft, and Prozac.........so no im not a xanax head.
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> But thanks for the comment, i just thought you where thinking i was abusing it.
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> Maybe it sounded like it in the one where i took grapefruit juice and xanax and thought i was on quaalues? thats it.
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> Sorry about that.
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> rj
Posted by rjlockhart on February 27, 2007, at 0:57:28
In reply to Re: Should i drink grapefuit juice with others meds » rjlockhart, posted by laima on February 27, 2007, at 0:26:04
ok, ill get back tommorow. but i understand exactly what you are saying about repeating it again.
thanks
rj
Posted by laima on February 27, 2007, at 10:10:56
In reply to Re: Should i drink grapefuit juice with others meds, posted by rjlockhart on February 27, 2007, at 0:57:28
I'm glad you understand. Thanks for that. And remember, I'm not judgeing- I'm hardly in a position to judge, and know it! I've personally done some pretty dumb things with drugs in the past, like amateur experimenting and not paying attention to warnings, and I am very, very lucky to not have had an accident. So of course your report caught my eye. Just thinking safety. Though not so sure your experiment was a great idea, I can understand your curiosity about the combination, and admit it was interesting to read about your experience, by the way. I never knew grapefruit juice could do so much-amazing. I don't usually drink grapefruit juice, but your report has convinced me to pay attention next time I see a warning on a med bottle that says "avoid grapefruit juice", and to believe it. So, your post was actually quite educational-despite it making me worry a bit. But seriously, that was enough of "interesting" to last for quite awhile-not fun to worry about people. And I know you are smart enough to imagine, when you think about it, that even though the xanax experiment turned out alright in the end, another med might do something much crazier and far more dangerous when combined with grapefruit juice. Or, even the xanax itself might do something different if one of your other meds changes-drug interactions can be complex and surprising, I understand. Now you don't want to be a human chemistry lab experiment, I am sure. Why risk being the one to discover such things?So we are cool?
> ok, ill get back tommorow. but i understand exactly what you are saying about repeating it again.
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> thanks
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> rj
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Posted by Phillipa on February 27, 2007, at 11:33:24
In reply to Re: Should i drink grapefuit juice with others meds » rjlockhart, posted by laima on February 27, 2007, at 10:10:56
Matt I think the grapefruit juice does interact with xanax google it. Love Phillipa
Posted by laima on February 27, 2007, at 13:21:18
In reply to Re: Should i drink grapefuit juice with others meds » laima, posted by Phillipa on February 27, 2007, at 11:33:24
Oh yes- Matt gave us a very interesting description of what happens in another thread!
> Matt I think the grapefruit juice does interact with xanax google it. Love Phillipa
Posted by rjlockhart on February 28, 2007, at 0:21:55
In reply to Re: Should i drink grapefuit juice with others meds » rjlockhart, posted by laima on February 27, 2007, at 10:10:56
No i really just heard it increases its half life, because actually someone here a while back told me that. Because i was complaining on how Xanax wears off so quickly, i mean WOOSH. And i cant take antohter one till later, because i may need it bad later.
I got an effect, very numbed, feeling, i was being sarcastic because i have never taken Quaalude. But it felt similar to it. I hope i didnt influce people to go do it!
I have abused stimulants bad in past. Im more prone just to stay stimulated, you know. Well bye bye amphetamines for me, i dont think ill ever go back on them. Plus i dont want to have the side effects, well i do rerember them helping me in organizing, thinking, rerembering, talking that relating to the converstaiton, those where the benefits i have no of.
But oh well, life moves on....
I dont know why xanax is abused, i mean the reason i take it is really to help me sleep now, when i was having the "blow" panic attacks, thats hwen i needed it to calm me down, which it did. This happened after i was taken straigh cold turkey off Dexedrine, i had panic attacks beyond reality.
Well yes we are still cool, i never actaully thought bad, i just thought, no we have always been cool.
So lets stay connected.
Rj
Posted by laima on February 28, 2007, at 8:52:35
In reply to Re:laima, posted by rjlockhart on February 28, 2007, at 0:21:55
Awsome.Hey- have you considered talking with your doctor about switching to another benzo which lasts longer than xanax? I think xanax is known to not last very long, maybe it's especially true for you? There is also a long acting form of xanax, called xanax xr. Some people like it, others think it doesn't work as well. Maybe give it a test?
Klonopin is a benzo which lasts a long time, but surely there are other options, too. Have you ever tried klonopin? Some people say it makes them depressed, but it never made me depressed, so I don't think that's always true. Plus, I've found it works good for social situations, or for situations where anxiety results in clenched muscles or difficulty breathing. It helps with bodily symptoms as well as mental ones. Like the muscles just let go and relax-feels much better than going through the day all clenched up. Just an idea.
Some people here on babble have written that they like lyrica for anxiety, and have mentioned that it helps them with social anxiety and depression, too. I never tried it myself, can't really tell you any more about it besides that it's not a benzo.
ps- Don't tell the doctor about the grapefruit juice experiment! Bet he or she wouldn't be too thrilled. It's all cool to have told about it here though, of course, but I wouldn't want your doctor to start getting ideas that you are a patient who messes around. That could influence how he or she prescribes for you.
Posted by laima on February 28, 2007, at 9:20:38
In reply to Re:laima, posted by rjlockhart on February 28, 2007, at 0:21:55
By the way, you asked about why is xanax abused. I have a theory about that. As you know, it is short acting and effective. It also has a reputation for "mood brightening". Benzos also have a reputation of losing effectiveness with long term regular use, meaning more becomes necessary to keep getting the same initial effect. So, especially if a person carries their bottle around, it's not hard to imagine an anxious person starting to take an extra pill here and there, thinking, "just this once!". But it becomes a habit. Then they become used to the self-imposed higher dose, and then have to take even MORE to get the same initial effect. And a terrible cycle can start. I don't think people abuse xanax or other benzos to get high, but as a desperate effort to stave off anxiety. If people just want to get high and that's their goal, I'm sure there are other, more fun feeling ways to do it.
ps- I hear there is a brand new stimulant called vyvanase, which is supposedly non-abuseable. Maybe that would be an option for you? There are some threads here somewhere that talk about it.
Posted by rjlockhart on February 28, 2007, at 14:39:58
In reply to xanax--rj, posted by laima on February 28, 2007, at 9:20:38
I have been on Ativan, Klonopin, Over 4 years of adjusting the dosages. Man i tell you, well Ativan was ok, but it just didnt stop panic attacks. Klonopin was strong and depressing. I hated klonopin, i made me so depressed, omg.
Well i definelly am not going to tell my doctor about the xanax experience with grapefruit. It increased its effect alot, too much i felt so drugged.
Well the main thing is i have to respect my mom because i went through a bad abuse time with stimulants, adderall, dexedrine, she said your never going on any amphetamine again, i dont care what it is.
It's kinda of a bad time and i dont want to think about amphetamiens or it triggers me to rerembering them in the past.
When did this new drug come out anyways?
Rj
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