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Posted by Tom Twilight on June 15, 2006, at 14:09:22
Hi all
Although I'm only 25 I seem to suffer from fatigue & exhaustion a lot!
I find it absolute hell to get up in the mornings, even if I've had a good nights sleep.
I don't tend to respond very well to ADs, they usually end up making my fatigue worse, or at least not helping
Could there be something wrong with my Thyriod or more worryingly my Adrenals?
Had one thyriod test, but it was apparently normal.
(My GP didn't want to discus the results with me, This is the UK!)Anyway whats the general consesus on the Adrenal Thyriod thing?
Is there any point in taking thyriod hormone if its in the normal range?
I also wonder about the whole testosterone thing.
My sex drive seems quite low, and I know that low testerone is associated with depression, at least in men.P.S. Does anyone know of anywere in the UK were they run tests for this kind of thing?
Posted by deuce224 on June 15, 2006, at 17:22:47
In reply to Thyriod, Adrenals Testosterone, posted by Tom Twilight on June 15, 2006, at 14:09:22
I have had similar problems with with fatigue and AD's not working, my thyroid is in the high area of normal range. I have done alot of research and found that there are two strategies that are used in cases like this. 1.) Lithium is added to the A.D. This helps in about 50 percent of cases. Even if the person is not bipolar the lithium seems to activate the AD. 2) The other strategy which is more of what your talking about is that T3 hormone is added. Even if the thyroid is in the normal range. Studies have shown that this strategy is almost as effective as lithium augmentation. For some reason there are some people who need T3 hormone even though their thyroid results appear to be "normal." Unfortunately this strategy is not used by alot of doctors. In fact, most of them probably don't even know about it. However, if you look up the research on pubmed there it is.
I am currently trying the first strategy and if that dosen't work My doctor is willing to try T3. Good luck. It sounds like mental healthcare in the Uk is really bad.
Posted by Tom Twilight on June 16, 2006, at 4:50:27
In reply to Re: Thyriod, Adrenals Testosterone, posted by deuce224 on June 15, 2006, at 17:22:47
Hey Deuce
Thanks for the info
I would like to see a doc who new something about the the Thryriod and its role in mood.
Regarding UK docs I suppose I'm biased!
Having said that I have had a lot of bad experiences!
Posted by meri-tuuli on June 17, 2006, at 11:23:12
In reply to Thyriod, Adrenals Testosterone, posted by Tom Twilight on June 15, 2006, at 14:09:22
Hey Tom!!
Check out http://www.thyroiduk.org/
Its a great website for thyroid disorders. They seem to come to the same conclusion as we do about UK GPs - they're pretty useless!!!
You should do the Barnes temperature test. I've just been through a patch were I thought it was my thyroid too. The test instructions is on the website. All you need is a mercury thermometer (and it has to be one of those - I bought mine for a couple of quid from the local pharmacy). And you do it yourself - you basically measure your body temperature first thing in the morning. Apparently this is more relaible way of testing thyriod than blood tests, because even if your result is 'normal' it might not be normal for you. They talk about this alot on the website. Its really good.
You could also have adrenal insufficies. I'm not entirely sure what this is, but my nutrinitionst talked about 'supporting my adrenals'. Not too sure of the science behind this, but hey.
Kind regards
Meri
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