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Posted by Mr.Scott on April 24, 2005, at 2:05:04
In reply to Re: Dexamyl » Paulbwell, posted by vivi on April 23, 2005, at 18:55:06
I have taken adderall for about 4-5 months. It no longer works, but instead causes increased anxiety. At first it was a miracle.
Scott
Posted by Paulbwell on April 24, 2005, at 2:27:01
In reply to Re: Dexamyl » vivi, posted by Mr.Scott on April 24, 2005, at 2:05:04
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> I have taken adderall for about 4-5 months. It no longer works, but instead causes increased anxiety. At first it was a miracle.
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> ScottIncrease the dose, or take Sodium bicarb with it, before it.
Posted by not_so_pro_social on April 24, 2005, at 2:39:09
In reply to Re: Dexamyl, posted by Paulbwell on April 24, 2005, at 2:27:01
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> >
> > I have taken adderall for about 4-5 months. It no longer works, but instead causes increased anxiety. At first it was a miracle.
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> > Scott
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> Increase the dose, or take Sodium bicarb with it, before it.
And DXM (dextrometorphan) or Memantine or Vinpocetine.
Posted by Sarah T. on April 24, 2005, at 16:52:44
In reply to Re: Dexamyl » vivi, posted by Mr.Scott on April 24, 2005, at 2:05:04
Hi, Mr. Scott. Prior to taking Adderall, had you ever taken that class of drug before? Had you ever been on Dexedrine? Were you on a high dose of Adderall? Dexedrine was very helpful to me for a long time, but I developed a tolerance, even at a relatively low dose. What a disappointment!
Thanks.
Posted by Phillipa on April 24, 2005, at 17:20:21
In reply to Re: Dexamyl » Mr.Scott, posted by Sarah T. on April 24, 2005, at 16:52:44
Hi Mr. Scott, Did you have anxiety before you started the med which then improved? If so maybe this is the type of drug I need to help me to concentrate, but my anxiety is always so high. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Paulbwell on April 25, 2005, at 16:45:20
In reply to Re: Dexamyl » vivi, posted by Mr.Scott on April 24, 2005, at 2:05:04
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> I have taken adderall for about 4-5 months. It no longer works, but instead causes increased anxiety. At first it was a miracle.
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> ScottHi
Adderall often causes increased anxiety, cos of the L-Amphetamine, Dex might be smoother.
Posted by Mr.Scott on April 25, 2005, at 20:51:59
In reply to Re: Dexamyl » Mr.Scott, posted by Paulbwell on April 25, 2005, at 16:45:20
Hi all,I have used stimulants here and there over the years. Pretty much all of them, and in varying dosages I would choose Dex alone over all of them, but my doc prefers adderall. Initially they do not increase anxiety because of the profound antidepressant effect they give me. Now after a few months...I find that they probably do increase anxiety as the antidepressive effect seems to have dissipated and all thats left is the stimulation. And when your thoughts are worms to begin with, worms on speed aren't so good. It is difficult for to say with certainty whether I'm better off on or off of them, but my guess is that it will soon be clear I am better off, off of them.
We'll see.
Scott
Posted by Mr.Scott on April 25, 2005, at 21:01:58
In reply to Re: Dexamyl, posted by Phillipa on April 24, 2005, at 17:20:21
It's hard to say...At first without question it destroyed my anxiety and I felt great. My functioning and outlook were really good. That however was temporary for me. What I can say is that too much benzo actually makes my anxiety worse. Go figure...Scott
Posted by Mr.Scott on April 25, 2005, at 21:03:38
In reply to Re: Dexamyl » Mr.Scott, posted by Sarah T. on April 24, 2005, at 16:52:44
I know... I thought I was cured..
Sadly... I too developed much tolerance. I tried to go up to 50mg of adderall, but right now I'm just staying at 30mg until a doctor gives me a better alternative.
Scott
Posted by Mr.Scott on April 25, 2005, at 21:07:04
In reply to Re: Dexamyl, posted by not_so_pro_social on April 24, 2005, at 2:39:09
Can you elaborate on your recommendations?
Thanks,
Scott
Posted by Chairman_MAO on April 26, 2005, at 12:19:34
In reply to Re: Dexamyl, posted by vivi on April 21, 2005, at 21:36:40
Dexamyl no longer exists because it actually elevated mood. Virtually no currently marketed antidepressants actually work--they simply make one number to their own emotions. And if you're numbed up, you can't be depressed, can you? It's sick stuff.
The MAOIs, are IMO (I am not at all humble on this topic) are the only drugs on the market--marketed as such--worthy of the title "antidepressant". That is, they actually ELEVATE mood. Furthermore, there will be no more effective monoaminergic antidepressants coming--EVER--because in order to be truly effective, you've got to affect DA, which makes an "abusable" drug. Even the benign, virtually abuse-proof buprenorphine is now a CIII controlled substance. It's pathetic.
Any new antidepresssant that actually is effective will use neurotransmitter systems heretofore untouched by psych drugs, such as neuropeptide Y and CCK (for depression and anxiety). New effective anxiolytics will probably be neurosteroids, such as allopregnanolone derivatives (see ganaxolone). Selective opioidergic mechanisms will also be on the menu someday, I hope.
Posted by Mr.Scott on April 26, 2005, at 15:25:22
In reply to Re: Dexamyl, posted by Chairman_MAO on April 26, 2005, at 12:19:34
IMO...
Dexamyl no longer exists because after it went generic all the problems associated with amphetamines and barbiturates were brought to light. After a few weeks, maybe months on that stuff (or the new adderall/benzo combos) and you better get ready for hell on earth. You need to chase the feeling or suffer the withdrawal and craving.Scott
Posted by vivi on April 26, 2005, at 21:41:31
In reply to Re: Dexamyl, posted by Mr.Scott on April 26, 2005, at 15:25:22
> IMO...
>
>
> Dexamyl no longer exists because after it went generic all the problems associated with amphetamines and barbiturates were brought to light. After a few weeks, maybe months on that stuff (or the new adderall/benzo combos) and you better get ready for hell on earth. You need to chase the feeling or suffer the withdrawal and craving.
>
> ScottWhat were some of the Dexamyl's generics? Just curious.
Viv
Posted by Paulbwell on April 26, 2005, at 22:15:26
In reply to Re: Dexamyl » Mr.Scott, posted by vivi on April 26, 2005, at 21:41:31
> > IMO...
> >
> >
> > Dexamyl no longer exists because after it went generic all the problems associated with amphetamines and barbiturates were brought to light. After a few weeks, maybe months on that stuff (or the new adderall/benzo combos) and you better get ready for hell on earth. You need to chase the feeling or suffer the withdrawal and craving.
> >
> > Scott
>
> What were some of the Dexamyl's generics? Just curious.
> Viv
>
>DEXAMYL had no generics,it simply became obsolete-(along with most Goofballs, Amps+Barbs)around 1970
Cheers
Posted by Mr.Scott on April 27, 2005, at 2:07:04
In reply to Re: Dexamyl » vivi, posted by Paulbwell on April 26, 2005, at 22:15:26
Yes I mean that once amphetamines and barbs went generic and they fell out of favor these combos just sort of fell by the wayside. Although I believe they were actually available until the 80's.
Posted by Minnie-Haha on April 27, 2005, at 13:57:12
In reply to Re: Dexamyl, posted by Chairman_MAO on April 26, 2005, at 12:19:34
Posted by Sarah T. on April 27, 2005, at 19:34:56
In reply to Re: Off topic, but I LOVE your Babble name! (nm) » Chairman_MAO, posted by Minnie-Haha on April 27, 2005, at 13:57:12
Isn't that terrific! It's so creative. To stay on-topic, he'll have to go over to the threads on selegiline, parnate and nardil.
Posted by Chairman_MAO on April 28, 2005, at 16:42:29
In reply to Re: Dexamyl, posted by Mr.Scott on April 26, 2005, at 15:25:22
Withdrawal and craving? There is no reason why amphetamine + a downer should produce any withdrawal and craving in anyone using it properly to treat anything (except a desire to get high, heh, and even for that, an astonishing number of people use them safely). Ayn Rand took three Dexamyl spansules per day for decades and quit when it went off the market with no ill effects.
Amphetamine is still used as a antidepressant in treatment-refractory cases, and is indespensible in the treatment of post-stroke depression. And as for tolerance, etc., chronic administration of amphetamine actually sensitizes the user to it, and LESS drug is required to produce the same effect. The only effect that wanes is the euphoria; a modest, antidepressant-like mood boost, increased energy, etc. remains and does not build tolerance for many people. Please do not parrot drug war hysteria without understanding what you're talking about.
I would rather take amphetamine and barbiturates than 80%+ of all the psych drugs on the market. At least amphetamines and barbiturates have been extensively studied for decades and found to be relatively nontoxic to human tissue. One certainly can't say that for most of the new psych drugs (think about the diabetes with Zyprexa, irreversible vision damage with Sabril, possible problems with strattera, liver damage with serzone, etc.). And have you seen the black box warning for Depakote?
And I sure hope you don't think the antipsychotics are safer than amphetamine!The therapeutic index for amphetamine is also higher than many of the drugs currently used in psychiatry today, and is also higher than caffeine's, everybody's "safe" stimulant. That certainly is not true for barbiturates, which is why the benzos replaced them. Taking amphetamine with a benzodiazepine is probably one of the safest drug cocktails one could imagine: If the doses are kept at sane levels, they mitigate the side effects of each other significantly while synergizing nicely.
I feel a lot safer taking Parnate--despite all the MAOI hysteria--than any of the newer ADs. At least I know it won't send me on a manic quest to kill myself like SSRIs can or cause god-knows-what damage to who-knows-which organs.
Posted by Mr.Scott on April 28, 2005, at 16:44:40
In reply to Re: Dexamyl, posted by Mr.Scott on April 25, 2005, at 20:51:59
So I saw my doctor today. He's US renound too by the way. He said get a good psychotherapist and he recommended 3. Then he said take as much adderall and ativan or clonazepam as you feel you need so long as it doesn't cause side effects (in addition to my pinch of zoloft). He said most people find a place where tolerance goes away and they stabilize. And if not he'll get me off the meds whether its inpatient or outpatient. And we can try something new.
What do you think?
Scott
Posted by Mr.Scott on April 28, 2005, at 17:03:46
In reply to Re: Dexamyl, posted by Chairman_MAO on April 28, 2005, at 16:42:29
"Please do not parrot drug war hysteria without understanding what you're talking about."
Easy... you communist antidepressant popper! Barbs are quite toxic and amphetamine aint candy. I know my sh*t pretty darn well. I'll go toe to toe on pharmacology with any patient or physician in the room 8 days a week. Now I hope you know I'm actually smiling while typing, and also that what I post only reflects "my state of mind" and "personal" concerns at the time of posting. I'm for whatever works. The problem is that when it doesn't I get real pissed off!
Thanks for that historical note on Ann Rand btw. Where did you find that?
Scott
Posted by Alejandro on April 28, 2005, at 17:44:15
In reply to Re: Dexamyl, posted by Chairman_MAO on April 28, 2005, at 16:42:29
> Withdrawal and craving? There is no reason why amphetamine + a downer should produce any withdrawal and craving in anyone using it properly to treat anything.
Certainly winthdrawal is not a problematic issue if you are on amphetamines, but it does on downers. However, if we are smart enough, it is a problem that actually can be solved. So, I agree with your comments.
> I would rather take amphetamine and barbiturates than 80%+ of all the psych drugs on the market. At least amphetamines and barbiturates have been extensively studied for decades and found to be relatively nontoxic to human tissue.Whats more, amphetamine and amph derivatives, such as methylphenidate, have been and currently are being used extensively by CHILDREN (ADHD rising population), and neurologists use to say: "Ritalin are safer than aspirin". What about most antidepressants? In fact, they are NOT approved by FDA to be used in children, because safety and side effects profile may not be trustworthy.
> And I sure hope you don't think the antipsychotics are safer than amphetamine!
:-)
Posted by Paulbwell on April 28, 2005, at 18:40:59
In reply to Re: Dexamyl » Chairman_MAO, posted by Mr.Scott on April 28, 2005, at 17:03:46
-I have read about 'Ayn Rand' and her use of Dextroamphetamine, being a moving force as to why her novels ran over a thousand pages, she is said to have switched to Mescaline (Amphetamine analogue) to help with some of her novels.
-'Buzz Aldrin' was given Ritalin for sever depression after returning to Earth.
-'Gone with the Wind' owes its making to Amphetamine. 'David O Selznick' constantly ate Benzedrine (L Amphetamine) to fuel 22!! hour days during it's making.
-'Lawrence of Arabia's' Omar Sharif was called a 'Dexedrine head', during it's making "I was very intense and used Dex to make me more excited" he admitted.
-'A Clockwork Orange's' Anthony Burgess used Amphetamine when writing many of his books.
-'Jack Kerouac', and 'Neal Casady' had a fondness for Dex during creative endeavours.
-'Ciao Manhatten', had a doctor on board to inject cast and crew with Dex during it's making.
-'Judy Garland' used Amphetamines administered by the studio to work long hours during the making of 'The wizard of Oz', She was taking up to 45!! Ritalin Tabs daily during 1968+Valium and Thorazine.
-'Johnny Cash' loved Dex so much he was caught Smuggling a thousand of em' across the mexican border in 1965.
-'William F Buckley Jr'-CIA man and confidant of the coucil of foreign legions has Taken Ritalin most days, for 35!! years.
-'Mick Jagger', pounded down Amphetamine Sulphate, amd MethAmphetamine Hcl tabs in the 1960's while he sang about "Mothers little helper". (Valium)
-'The Everly Brothers' were scripted Amphetamine in 1962.
-"Mad" magazines 'Bill Faires' constant use of Dexedrine helped his obsessive work on creating the Mag.
-'Hugh Hefner' used Dexedrine to work long hours while working on "Playboy"
-Actor 'John Belushi' regularly took as many Biphetamine capsules and Quaaludes as he could fit in his huge stomach.
-"Sex Pistols" 'Johnny Rotten' got high on Amphetamine Sulphate.
-'Elvis' began the day with a handfull of SKF 5mg Dexedrine.
-'JFK' was injected with Amphatamine, and took Ritalin during the early 1960's.
'Hitler' was injected up to eight!! times a day with Methamphetamine during the latter part of his horrific domination.
-'Paul Erdos', one of the greatest mathematicians of last century,(NASA employee) took Ritalin and Dexedrine-sometimes both! nearly every day during the last twenty five years of his life 1971-1996 aged 86. He under took a bet to abstain for a month, and his output plummeted to nothing. He remarked after said month to his wager, "You have put Mathematics back a month", and resumed his pills.
-The 'Beatles' were kick started by Preludin-an Amphetamine-like diet pill, during the early 1960's.
-British PM 'Anthony Eden' lived on Benzedrine, during the Sues crisis of 1956.
Posted by vivi on April 28, 2005, at 21:04:15
In reply to Re: AMPHETAMINES and ART, posted by Paulbwell on April 28, 2005, at 18:40:59
> -I have read about 'Ayn Rand' and her use of Dextroamphetamine, being a moving force as to why her novels ran over a thousand pages, she is said to have switched to Mescaline (Amphetamine analogue) to help with some of her novels.
>
> -'Buzz Aldrin' was given Ritalin for sever depression after returning to Earth.
>
> -'Gone with the Wind' owes its making to Amphetamine. 'David O Selznick' constantly ate Benzedrine (L Amphetamine) to fuel 22!! hour days during it's making.
>
> -'Lawrence of Arabia's' Omar Sharif was called a 'Dexedrine head', during it's making "I was very intense and used Dex to make me more excited" he admitted.
>
> -'A Clockwork Orange's' Anthony Burgess used Amphetamine when writing many of his books.
>
> -'Jack Kerouac', and 'Neal Casady' had a fondness for Dex during creative endeavours.
>
> -'Ciao Manhatten', had a doctor on board to inject cast and crew with Dex during it's making.
>
> -'Judy Garland' used Amphetamines administered by the studio to work long hours during the making of 'The wizard of Oz', She was taking up to 45!! Ritalin Tabs daily during 1968+Valium and Thorazine.
>
> -'Johnny Cash' loved Dex so much he was caught Smuggling a thousand of em' across the mexican border in 1965.
>
> -'William F Buckley Jr'-CIA man and confidant of the coucil of foreign legions has Taken Ritalin most days, for 35!! years.
>
> -'Mick Jagger', pounded down Amphetamine Sulphate, amd MethAmphetamine Hcl tabs in the 1960's while he sang about "Mothers little helper". (Valium)
>
> -'The Everly Brothers' were scripted Amphetamine in 1962.
>
> -"Mad" magazines 'Bill Faires' constant use of Dexedrine helped his obsessive work on creating the Mag.
>
> -'Hugh Hefner' used Dexedrine to work long hours while working on "Playboy"
>
> -Actor 'John Belushi' regularly took as many Biphetamine capsules and Quaaludes as he could fit in his huge stomach.
>
> -"Sex Pistols" 'Johnny Rotten' got high on Amphetamine Sulphate.
>
> -'Elvis' began the day with a handfull of SKF 5mg Dexedrine.
>
> -'JFK' was injected with Amphatamine, and took Ritalin during the early 1960's.
>
> 'Hitler' was injected up to eight!! times a day with Methamphetamine during the latter part of his horrific domination.
>
> -'Paul Erdos', one of the greatest mathematicians of last century,(NASA employee) took Ritalin and Dexedrine-sometimes both! nearly every day during the last twenty five years of his life 1971-1996 aged 86. He under took a bet to abstain for a month, and his output plummeted to nothing. He remarked after said month to his wager, "You have put Mathematics back a month", and resumed his pills.
>
> -The 'Beatles' were kick started by Preludin-an Amphetamine-like diet pill, during the early 1960's.
>
> -British PM 'Anthony Eden' lived on Benzedrine, during the Sues crisis of 1956.
that was very interesting. What exactly is Benzedrine? Is that still used? Methamphetamine is a horrible drug!!!!!!!! no wonder he was the way he was.
Posted by Paulbwell on April 28, 2005, at 22:11:30
In reply to Re: AMPHETAMINES and ART » Paulbwell, posted by vivi on April 28, 2005, at 21:04:15
> > -I have read about 'Ayn Rand' and her use of Dextroamphetamine, being a moving force as to why her novels ran over a thousand pages, she is said to have switched to Mescaline (Amphetamine analogue) to help with some of her novels.
> >
> > -'Buzz Aldrin' was given Ritalin for sever depression after returning to Earth.
> >
> > -'Gone with the Wind' owes its making to Amphetamine. 'David O Selznick' constantly ate Benzedrine (L Amphetamine) to fuel 22!! hour days during it's making.
> >
> > -'Lawrence of Arabia's' Omar Sharif was called a 'Dexedrine head', during it's making "I was very intense and used Dex to make me more excited" he admitted.
> >
> > -'A Clockwork Orange's' Anthony Burgess used Amphetamine when writing many of his books.
> >
> > -'Jack Kerouac', and 'Neal Casady' had a fondness for Dex during creative endeavours.
> >
> > -'Ciao Manhatten', had a doctor on board to inject cast and crew with Dex during it's making.
> >
> > -'Judy Garland' used Amphetamines administered by the studio to work long hours during the making of 'The wizard of Oz', She was taking up to 45!! Ritalin Tabs daily during 1968+Valium and Thorazine.
> >
> > -'Johnny Cash' loved Dex so much he was caught Smuggling a thousand of em' across the mexican border in 1965.
> >
> > -'William F Buckley Jr'-CIA man and confidant of the coucil of foreign legions has Taken Ritalin most days, for 35!! years.
> >
> > -'Mick Jagger', pounded down Amphetamine Sulphate, amd MethAmphetamine Hcl tabs in the 1960's while he sang about "Mothers little helper". (Valium)
> >
> > -'The Everly Brothers' were scripted Amphetamine in 1962.
> >
> > -"Mad" magazines 'Bill Faires' constant use of Dexedrine helped his obsessive work on creating the Mag.
> >
> > -'Hugh Hefner' used Dexedrine to work long hours while working on "Playboy"
> >
> > -Actor 'John Belushi' regularly took as many Biphetamine capsules and Quaaludes as he could fit in his huge stomach.
> >
> > -"Sex Pistols" 'Johnny Rotten' got high on Amphetamine Sulphate.
> >
> > -'Elvis' began the day with a handfull of SKF 5mg Dexedrine.
> >
> > -'JFK' was injected with Amphatamine, and took Ritalin during the early 1960's.
> >
> > 'Hitler' was injected up to eight!! times a day with Methamphetamine during the latter part of his horrific domination.
> >
> > -'Paul Erdos', one of the greatest mathematicians of last century,(NASA employee) took Ritalin and Dexedrine-sometimes both! nearly every day during the last twenty five years of his life 1971-1996 aged 86. He under took a bet to abstain for a month, and his output plummeted to nothing. He remarked after said month to his wager, "You have put Mathematics back a month", and resumed his pills.
> >
> > -The 'Beatles' were kick started by Preludin-an Amphetamine-like diet pill, during the early 1960's.
> >
> > -British PM 'Anthony Eden' lived on Benzedrine, during the Sues crisis of 1956.
>
>
> that was very interesting. What exactly is Benzedrine? Is that still used? Methamphetamine is a horrible drug!!!!!!!! no wonder he was the way he was.
>
Benzedrine was the first Amphetamine Levo Amphetamine, MUCH less centrally stimuling than DEX.Hitler was PSYCHOTIC-you seen his rants and public raves, Meth helped that, no doubt, R.I.H
Adderall is a mix of L and D Amphetamine
Cheers
Posted by Paulbwell on April 28, 2005, at 22:16:10
In reply to Re: AMPHETAMINES and ART » Paulbwell, posted by vivi on April 28, 2005, at 21:04:15
> > -I have read about 'Ayn Rand' and her use of Dextroamphetamine, being a moving force as to why her novels ran over a thousand pages, she is said to have switched to Mescaline (Amphetamine analogue) to help with some of her novels.
> >
> > -'Buzz Aldrin' was given Ritalin for sever depression after returning to Earth.
> >
> > -'Gone with the Wind' owes its making to Amphetamine. 'David O Selznick' constantly ate Benzedrine (L Amphetamine) to fuel 22!! hour days during it's making.
> >
> > -'Lawrence of Arabia's' Omar Sharif was called a 'Dexedrine head', during it's making "I was very intense and used Dex to make me more excited" he admitted.
> >
> > -'A Clockwork Orange's' Anthony Burgess used Amphetamine when writing many of his books.
> >
> > -'Jack Kerouac', and 'Neal Casady' had a fondness for Dex during creative endeavours.
> >
> > -'Ciao Manhatten', had a doctor on board to inject cast and crew with Dex during it's making.
> >
> > -'Judy Garland' used Amphetamines administered by the studio to work long hours during the making of 'The wizard of Oz', She was taking up to 45!! Ritalin Tabs daily during 1968+Valium and Thorazine.
> >
> > -'Johnny Cash' loved Dex so much he was caught Smuggling a thousand of em' across the mexican border in 1965.
> >
> > -'William F Buckley Jr'-CIA man and confidant of the coucil of foreign legions has Taken Ritalin most days, for 35!! years.
> >
> > -'Mick Jagger', pounded down Amphetamine Sulphate, amd MethAmphetamine Hcl tabs in the 1960's while he sang about "Mothers little helper". (Valium)
> >
> > -'The Everly Brothers' were scripted Amphetamine in 1962.
> >
> > -"Mad" magazines 'Bill Faires' constant use of Dexedrine helped his obsessive work on creating the Mag.
> >
> > -'Hugh Hefner' used Dexedrine to work long hours while working on "Playboy"
> >
> > -Actor 'John Belushi' regularly took as many Biphetamine capsules and Quaaludes as he could fit in his huge stomach.
> >
> > -"Sex Pistols" 'Johnny Rotten' got high on Amphetamine Sulphate.
> >
> > -'Elvis' began the day with a handfull of SKF 5mg Dexedrine.
> >
> > -'JFK' was injected with Amphatamine, and took Ritalin during the early 1960's.
> >
> > 'Hitler' was injected up to eight!! times a day with Methamphetamine during the latter part of his horrific domination.
> >
> > -'Paul Erdos', one of the greatest mathematicians of last century,(NASA employee) took Ritalin and Dexedrine-sometimes both! nearly every day during the last twenty five years of his life 1971-1996 aged 86. He under took a bet to abstain for a month, and his output plummeted to nothing. He remarked after said month to his wager, "You have put Mathematics back a month", and resumed his pills.
> >
> > -The 'Beatles' were kick started by Preludin-an Amphetamine-like diet pill, during the early 1960's.
> >
> > -British PM 'Anthony Eden' lived on Benzedrine, during the Sues crisis of 1956.
>
>
> that was very interesting. What exactly is Benzedrine? Is that still used? Methamphetamine is a horrible drug!!!!!!!! no wonder he was the way he was.
>
Benzedrine was the first Amphetamine Levo Amphetamine, MUCH less centrally stimuling than DEX.Hitler was PSYCHOTIC-you seen his rants and public raves, Meth helped that, no doubt, R.I.H
Adderall is a mix of L and D Amphetamine
Cheers
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