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Posted by ed_uk on December 8, 2004, at 13:05:51
Hi,
Whenever I take diazepam (Valium) I find that when it wears off a few hours later I'm left feeling rather depressed. Has anyone else experienced this?
Regards,
Ed.
Posted by paulbwell on December 8, 2004, at 15:34:49
In reply to Diazepam (Valium), posted by ed_uk on December 8, 2004, at 13:05:51
> Hi,
>
> Whenever I take diazepam (Valium) I find that when it wears off a few hours later I'm left feeling rather depressed. Has anyone else experienced this?
>
> Regards,
> Ed.
Yep me too, have taken 2-50mgs at once, and tolerance to the pleasant drunk-like feelings builds very! fast, in days,Valium well known to cause depression, with repeated, multi day dosage- did for me as well.
Cheers
Posted by paulbwell on December 8, 2004, at 15:41:32
In reply to Re: Diazepam (Valium), posted by paulbwell on December 8, 2004, at 15:34:49
Even valiums creator, Leo Sternbach, said recently, on valiums 40th anniversery, that he doesn't take his product, because of this reason.
Posted by ed_uk on December 8, 2004, at 15:41:39
In reply to Re: Diazepam (Valium), posted by paulbwell on December 8, 2004, at 15:34:49
Hi,
I've taken 2-30mg at once. I've never taken it for more than one day at a time. I sometimes have (mild) suicidal thoughts a few hours after the dose when it has started to wear off. It's the only anxiolytic benzo that most UK docs will prescribe. They seems to be fixated with the idea that diazepam is the safest benzo. My pdoc looked at me like a drug addict when I asked for lorazepam instead. Funny really because a friend once gave me some lorazepam and it didn't give me the mild 'buzz' that diazepam causes. Anyway I prefered lorazepam because it didn't cause me as much drowsiness.
Ed
Posted by ed_uk on December 8, 2004, at 15:46:28
In reply to Diazepam (Valium), posted by ed_uk on December 8, 2004, at 13:05:51
Maybe I should show this to my pdoc..............
J Psychoactive Drugs. 1993 Oct-Dec;25(4):315-9. Related Articles, Links
Types of benzodiazepines abused by chemically dependent inpatients.
Malcolm R, Brady KT, Johnston AL, Cunningham M.
Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences, Medical University of South Carolina, Charleston 29425.
Records of inpatients (N = 1,483) over a three-year period at an addiction treatment center were evaluated for the presence of benzodiazepine (BZ) dependence (N = 136). The preferred BZ for 43% of the subjects was diazepam, and alprazolam for 14% of subjects. Chlordiazepoxide, lorazepam, and clorazepate were each the preferred BZ for 4% of patients. Cocaine and opioid abusers were six times more likely to abuse diazepam than any other BZ. Alprazolam patients required a significantly longer period of detoxification than diazepam patients. Four percent of BZ-dependent patients (N = 6) abused BZs only and had no other substance abuse history.
Posted by paulbwell on December 8, 2004, at 15:50:46
In reply to Re: Diazepam (Valium), posted by paulbwell on December 8, 2004, at 15:41:32
Wow ED,
We posted the above two messages at the-EXACT same time-freaky, Yer I,ve heard this about UK Docs, weird, considering Valium has a pretty high recreation value, most people say.
Cheers
Posted by paulbwell on December 8, 2004, at 15:54:23
In reply to Re: Diazepam (Valium), posted by ed_uk on December 8, 2004, at 15:46:28
WORD-Valium=dry Alcohol
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Posted by ed_uk on December 8, 2004, at 15:56:57
In reply to Re: Diazepam (Valium), posted by paulbwell on December 8, 2004, at 15:50:46
Hi,
Because Valium is somewhat easier to taper than most other benzos UK docs seem to have fallen into the trap of assuming that it has a lower abuse potential.
Anyway, since I only use benzos prn (very rarely actually) it doesn't really matter how easy the drug is to taper.
Regards,
Ed.
Posted by ed_uk on December 8, 2004, at 15:57:30
In reply to Re: Diazepam (Valium), posted by ed_uk on December 8, 2004, at 15:56:57
I think we just posted at the same time again!
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