Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 113282

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Why are we imprisoning chemically unballanced peop

Posted by linkadge on July 22, 2002, at 14:48:16

The most commonly held religions
state that people are inately evil,
and that they must choose to turn from
this natural evil, to an enlightened state.
The majority or the population believes crime
is commited by bad people.

I disagree with this. I believe
that people who are given a good envionment
and a healthy brain, don't commit crimes.
I no longer believe in the concept of evil.

Hundreds of studies, have proven
that with proper tretment, many criminals,
even violent ones, can change their behavior
dramatically. I'm sure this
concept isn't new. Who the hell are we
to make people, who have already suffered
enough, suffer punnishment for their
genes.

Is there as single person here, who has be
successfully treated with medication, able
to argue with the power of their nature
People cannot controll their mood, it
usually controlls them.

Rage and agression can be induced in many normal
people with many substances from sterioids to
resterpine. If can PCP has been blamed for
thousands of crimes, then there concievably be
somebody out there who experiences the same rage
without intoxication.

It is not about seeing the difference, it
is about existing through the difference.

 

Right on. (nm)

Posted by Shawn. T. on July 22, 2002, at 15:23:20

In reply to Why are we imprisoning chemically unballanced peop, posted by linkadge on July 22, 2002, at 14:48:16

 

Agree!! Tell the 'general public' this!!!!! (nm) » linkadge

Posted by jay on July 22, 2002, at 22:50:49

In reply to Why are we imprisoning chemically unballanced peop, posted by linkadge on July 22, 2002, at 14:48:16

 

Re: Why are we imprisoning chemically unballanced peop

Posted by oracle on July 22, 2002, at 23:04:41

In reply to Why are we imprisoning chemically unballanced peop, posted by linkadge on July 22, 2002, at 14:48:16

In a work (or two) "Who is going to pay?"

Disability does not excuse the action but
it does explain it. Many mentally ill
do manage to not commit felonies. I am
not doubting that there is a direct
connection between mental illness and
crime. But wrong is wrong, once you start
killing and sealing, you are removed from society
and loose rights. Jail clearly makes things worse,
at the individual level. Society is safer for a while but jail
makes better criminals.

I see no reason why we should expect any success
by trying to solve this problem once someone is serving
time. We do have to try, but it is easier to move a mule from the front
than the back. We need more staff in the schools
so we can spot these problems very early. We need
to fund schools so if a kid is not getting whatever
they need from home, there is someone at school meeting
this need. We have fooled ourselves with "quality time".

How do we get our governments to see that we pay little to solve these problems
when they are young or pay more for the violence, legal proceedings,
and years of board and keep in jail when they are adults ?

"Who is going to pay?"

Just a bit of the Royal Dutchy, a relic or 2 from the Holy See,
A part of Enron's or WCOM's loss, a few less high tech bombs,
or decide not to go to Mars this year, perhaps.

 

Redirect: imprisoning chemically unballanced peop

Posted by Dr. Bob on July 23, 2002, at 8:22:09

In reply to Why are we imprisoning chemically unballanced peop, posted by linkadge on July 22, 2002, at 14:48:16

> Who the hell are we
> to make people, who have already suffered
> enough, suffer punnishment for their
> genes.

This is fine to discuss, but it's not primarily a medication-related issue, so I'd prefer for that to happen at Psycho-Social-Babble:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20020722/msgs/26977.html

Thanks,

Bob

PS: Follow-ups regarding posting policies should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration.


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