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Posted by winter on June 21, 2002, at 18:04:34
I started taking Dexedrine Last Sunday(16th) for idiopathic hypersomnia and possible ADD. Possible because I have suspicions that I may have ADD or ADHD, however its isn't as if I show it when I see my doctor because I am half-asleep and in a daze. However I know how I am when I finally get energy and I remember before I began sleeping and I feel some things may be indicative. So, since I need to take the Dexedrine for the hypersomnia, it is almost a bonus sort of test. If it makes me feel more focused etc... then more of a possibility.
Anyway, So I started on 10 mg spansules for three days and they didn't do anything execpt make me feel sick. That I believe is also partly because I drug myself out of bed expecting them to work.
WendsdayI added a 5 mg regular in addition to the 10mg spansule. Not quite what I was hoping for but better. I took it at 9 in the morning instantly fell asleep and woke at 12:30. (I rarely wake that early on my own. Some improvement. Usually after I wake up without stimulants (I wake between 2-5 getting 12-16 hours of sleep) It takes me between 2-4 hours to get any energy move around. So I usually just sit on the couch and watch tv still slighty asleep. My own natural energy kicks in around 6:30 and tapers off starting at 10. So Wed. took at 9 slept till 12:30, ended up sitting around till about 2. Then I got energy till 5. Nine pm I was sleepy. 11 pm passing out.Thursday 10 mg spansule added addition 5mg on top of other 5 mg reg one . Total 10 mg spansule 10 mg regular. 20mg total. Took at 9:30 , woke up and got out of bed right away! Loads of energy focused and determined. Felt better than I had in a very long time. 3 pm felt hazy little tired. 5 perked up a litte. 7 pm eyes wouldn't focus like when your tired. Felt a little tired. Nine, didn't feel like moving. Sleep at 12.
Friday. 10 mg spansule 10 mg reg. 9:00. fell back asleep till 10:30! Struggled to get out of bed. Using all energy to move. Feel like sitting in front of tv and not moving, no energy.I understood the first three days, dose wasn't high enough. I understand that thursday(10span10reg) my energy levels dropped around 3 probably because thats when the 10 mg of reg wore off and I was just sustaining on the spansule. However why did on Wed. (10span.5reg) did I fall back asleep for a few hours, then have no energy whilst the reg one was active then get energy later on whilst I only had the span. in my system?
Finally, why did what I took thursday(10span10reg) which seemed to be perfect, not seem to work at all today?Has anyone else experienced anything like this. I am being paranoid and thinking that perhaps my body is becoming accostomed to the dexedrine at a rapid pace, far too fast that would makeme need to increase constantly inorder for it to work. That seems impossible. This s just my hypochondria/paranoia tha I always get when ever I start a new drug.
I know most people take Dexedrine for ADD/ADHD. Any input would help. After such a positive result yesterday(thur) I was expecting it to bethe same today. When I ended up falling back asleep and lacking energy like usual it made me feel quite depressed. There were things I wanted to do today and now its 4 pm and I have wasted so much time just sitting in one spot feeling tired. I always knew that being tired was awful but it wasn't till wed afternoon and yesterday that it bothered me like this. It reminded me, let me feel normal again, like I could function and I had hope. I was sad and depressed about sleeping so much, now I am pissed off.
Winter
Posted by katekite on June 21, 2002, at 21:33:09
In reply to Dexedrine works on and off, posted by winter on June 21, 2002, at 18:04:34
Hi Winter,
I forget what else you take?
I can maybe offer a theory for today, which would be that you totally wore yourself out yesterday when you finally could get up and going -- you were so happy to be able to do things and stay awake that you did. Your body is used to sleeping practically all the time and can't do it (yet) two days in a row.
So my solution for that would be to remember to take it really really easy, maybe set time limits to be 'up' for a week or so. Try to do the same small amount of activity every day so that you get used to being active on a normal daily schedule.
Of course based on the one day I really have no clue if that's really it, totally guessing.
Many people with ADD put the stuff by their bed and set an alarm to take it early, then let themselves go back to sleep for an hour or two... we find getting up much less of a drag that way. Also if it wears off earlier in the day then you have a better chance of going to sleep early which prepares you better for the following day (than midnight).
It seems like you really have trouble getting going but that once you have some momentum you do pretty well.
It's very hopeful that at least on one day it had the effect that you were looking for. Some people need 20 mg of spansule, you never know.
Kate
Posted by jonh kimble on June 22, 2002, at 18:16:35
In reply to Dexedrine works on and off, posted by winter on June 21, 2002, at 18:04:34
hi winter. you sound quite similar to me. i take dexedrine daily but i also find it works some days while not others. if it does work it is usually suttle, but sometimes im full of energy, talkative, motivated, interested, etc.
i like the sound of katekite's idea. for me, if i sleep in really late for a long time i just cant get up early. slowly get up earlier, but of course i dont know you're situation, so its up to you.
dexedrine poopout is something not many doctors have a solution for. I have recently read some very interesting information that claimed that a medication called memantine prevents stimulant poop out. it is a nmda antagonist, which i have no clue as to how this would prevent stim poopout. some posters have reported this benefit, and a study was done to see if memantine could help with crack addiction. it didnt, in fact those taking memantine reported feeling much more euphoria and all that when they smoked crack. stimulants rarely have any effect on me. (yes, i regret doing it, but even high quality cocaine had no effect on me, while those i was with were bouncing off the walls)
i cant offer you a lot of studies to prove this, but it doesnt sound like a dangerous, addictive, or side effect causing medication so you may want to keep this in mind.
on the a side note, what are you're main simptoms? i have social anxiety, dysthymia, cfs, and add. if you have any of these symptoms, then i could possibly offer you some help.
jon
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