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Posted by Lynn on August 25, 1998, at 11:54:30
Help -
Have been on too many to count anti depressent drugs for the last 20 years for depression. Latest diagnosis is manic depressive (bi-polar) with only symptoms of the depressive state. Daily to weekly mood shifts, great fatigue and depression.Currently on wellbutrin and nurontin. The nurontin seemed to help initially, but even with increasing dosages, not seeing any result. Have been on every other type of anti-depressent drug and can't get relief.
Saw in older "tips" some research on stimulants for this treatment. Does any one know of further studies or treatments? Would feel wonderful to have energy!
Posted by DAN on August 28, 1998, at 2:32:51
In reply to Stimulants for depression, posted by Lynn on August 25, 1998, at 11:54:30
> Help -
> Have been on too many to count anti depressent drugs for the last 20 years for depression. Latest diagnosis is manic depressive (bi-polar) with only symptoms of the depressive state. Daily to weekly mood shifts, great fatigue and depression.> Currently on wellbutrin and nurontin. The nurontin seemed to help initially, but even with increasing dosages, not seeing any result. Have been on every other type of anti-depressent drug and can't get relief.
> Saw in older "tips" some research on stimulants for this treatment. Does any one know of further studies or treatments? Would feel wonderful to have energy!
Hi.
I'm assuming you have been tried on Depakote, which is less sedating than nurontin. As for stimulants, they can be extremely effective in treating depression when used with good judgment. Ritalin has proven effective with several people whom I see for treatment. However, it never works when used as the only medication for depression. Wellbutrin is currently the expert "consensus". Other possibilities would be multiple antidepressant treatment with a mood stabalizer. Such as Effexor, Wellbutrin and Ritalin.
I hope this was helpful.
Posted by Liev on August 30, 1998, at 1:53:23
In reply to Stimulants for depression, posted by Lynn on August 25, 1998, at 11:54:30
I'll be quite honest. And I'll disregard any opposition from "no-no" people.
For some people, regardleass of any "big warnings", amphetamine use, as prescribed, is the only effective treatment. Yes, it's addictive. But your quality of live is of infinite more importance than the worries and troubles of addiction. I do not recommend this as any sort of common medical approach. But is depression is unresponsive to everything, for years and years, try the amphetamine class - and don't worry about addiction and dependence. The resrictions that manifest are the effect of the illness of depression. The illness controls... Ask the man himself, Mr. Sigmund Fraud, he certainly loved his cocaine abuse. Find a doctor that is willing and able to try this, and stay away from "frightened-about-addiction-docs" - they may just prolong this further. Again, it's addictive - upping the dose, needing, wanting. It is ultimately yourself that must weigh the odds, together with a compationate doc.
Posted by Leiv on August 30, 1998, at 2:06:18
In reply to Stimulants for depression, posted by Lynn on August 25, 1998, at 11:54:30
Yes, I read the other response... Try, for example Luvox, and dextroamphetamine spansules, or tablets. Or Prozac and adderal. Watch out for sighns of mania, especially if adding an amphetamine and, for example, wellbutrin. but it is definitely proper and beneficial to augment antidepressent(s) with amph. Trial, and error. Ritalin is up-down. Dexedrine is up, slowly, down, slowly. At least for the majority. Note: Make sure that if you do augment, to have adequate dosages...otherwise your medicating on principle, which may give the illusory idea that it's not effective. Trial and error - this is the only thing that really works. Just don't expect to be frolicking. Remember, also, what goes up, comes down. Think it through - how will you sleep? Will you crash and go lower? But think positive - 5 hours of feeling normal and 3 hours of feeling like crap is better than feeling like crap all day.
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